Arlie Russell Hochschild, a sociologist who’s spent much of the past decade in ruby-red areas of the U.S. researching why voters there are drawn to Donald Trump, joins Katie Couric for a fascinating conversation about how Trump captured the working class. In Arlie’s view, it’s not just about the economy, trans rights, or climate change—it’s about loss, shame, and ultimately pride. Listen wherever you get your podcasts or here: https://katiecouricmedia.visitlink.me/1KxrB7 | Katie Couric Media